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Elizabeth Culmer ([personal profile] edenfalling) wrote2009-10-27 09:58 pm

Quote of the Day (plus an argument against said quote, because Richard Dawkins is an ASS)

We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
---Richard Dawkins



I resent some man who doesn't know me from Adam coming down from on high and telling me what my religious beliefs are, as if he knows them better than I do!

I am not atheistic about any god. I am agnostic about all of them. In fact, I have been known to swear thusly: "By all the gods that anyone ever held holy..." which tells you something about my attitude toward all views of the divine.

This is not to say that I believe in such gods in the way Dawkins means (and may I say he has a horrifically reductive view of religion? he's as bad as fundamentalists, just in the other direction!), but I am open to the possibility that they might exist -- it is, after all, impossible to prove a negative -- and I do believe that they were real to their adherents, in the same way that I believe all currently worshipped deities are real to their adherents.

(We can debate subjective vs. objective reality some other day.)

Anyway, I do try to respect everyone's religion or lack thereof, but holy fuck, sometimes people get my back up!

*spits in Dawkins's general direction*

[identity profile] rurounitriv.livejournal.com 2009-10-29 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. But you can't deny that a lot of the noisiest atheists do just that. "God's existence can't be proven scientifically, therefore S/He does not exist!" seems to be their rallying cry. Nevermind that they can't disprove God/dess's existence either... they've never seen that burning bush, nor heard it talk to them, therefore it's just a pretty myth, no more real than the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and all religion is bunk.

Me, I figure the sheer universality of a belief in Something Bigger indicates at least a possibility that there is something more than the physical. It could just be the human love of making up stories and our dislike of things we can't explain, but that's a chance I choose to take. Worst that happens if I'm wrong is that I live my life in accordance with principles I choose, and when I'm dead nothing happens. ;)