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[personal profile] edenfalling
Hotmail has just "upgraded" so that its layout and functions mimic Outlook. There is no way to opt out of this change.

I didn't want this. I have not wanted any of their so-called "upgrades" over the years (...okay, the increased memory was not horrible, mostly because it had no effect on the presentation or actual use of the site) and so far as I can tell there is never any public beta-testing or even so much as a general inquiry into whether anyone wants the fucking "upgrades."

I like things simple and plain and boring, I do not use your stupid useless bells and whistles, and I DO NOT LIKE CHANGE, GODDAMMIT. Especially not when the change was completely unneeded, and ugly, and messes up the ways I have gotten comfortable with using a particular site or service!

Why does the internet never seem to accept that this is a perfectly valid preference???

(No, I am not going to switch to Gmail. So far as I can tell, Google is equally annoying and top-down "oh, but just try it, you'll like it!" about such things. Also, see above re: disliking change.

...Although if you know a simple and basic web-based email service that doesn't fuck with its users this way, I might be willing to pay actual cash to not get jerked around with bullshit "upgrades" every year or so.)

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Date: 2013-03-19 07:18 am (UTC)
sabriel: by mlina @ LJ (I do not approve of this shananiganry)
From: [personal profile] sabriel
You might probably just want to get some sort of paid email service or more likely, your own hosting service where you can set up your email into how you like it and make it stick that way.

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Date: 2013-03-21 01:31 pm (UTC)
sabriel: LOTR - Lidless Eye for the Hobbit Guy (LOTR - Lidless Eye for the Hobbit Guy)
From: [personal profile] sabriel
I can host your email if you like, though right now I'm only able to offer 500 MB of space and you might not like the webmail client functions.

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Date: 2013-03-19 03:42 pm (UTC)
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] branchandroot
*rueful* Yeah, they seem to think the same "repackage to get more money" principle applies as does to cereal, and, just, no.

Truly, the only way you can avoid this is to get a web hosting account (your own web-space and domain name) and pick a web-based email client to load up there and use. Hosting about 6 bucks a month at most places. It /would/ also mean you could maintain your own fic archive home base if you so wished. I'd be happy to share my Wordpress archive theme if you wanted to go that route. The email client, I can't help much with. I've gone over to apple Mail, which at least did give us an opt out "gimme back my old screen you assholes" option.

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Date: 2013-03-20 05:56 pm (UTC)
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] branchandroot
None. They're reasonably simple. For a Wordpress installation, you pretty much just upload it through the visual interface, follow the steps to activate it through your browser, and go. Most email clients made to use on your own web host are the same way. You'll want to check that the email client you want has simple instructions, and just needs to be uploaded and started, but most web hosting services will offer you a selection of two or three free web-based clients already installed because they know a lot of people want them. At that point, you just follow the Admin screens to create or access your email account, and you're good.

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Date: 2013-03-19 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishuu.livejournal.com
There's no escape!!! Yahoo does this to me on an annual basis.

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Date: 2013-03-19 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heliopausa.livejournal.com
A-men! I'm on gmail, and yes, they top-down (this is a verb, not a mistake), and nag and nag and nag if you don't accept their changes, and then force some through anyway. Sympathies.

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Date: 2013-03-19 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dameruth.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah, I'll rant at length every time some site (Yahoo, Gmail, LJ, Tumblr) decides to fix what isn't broken. Dammit, people, I'm using your services because I like the way they're set up.

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Date: 2013-03-19 01:19 pm (UTC)
lady_songsmith: owl (owl)
From: [personal profile] lady_songsmith
It is truly hideous, isn't it? What I want to know is why every site seems to be designing for OMG SEARING MY EYEBALLS OUT brightness lately. This is not what is meant by "whitespace", site designers.

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Date: 2013-03-19 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monkey5s.livejournal.com
Yeah, good luck with that. I am most put out with Yahoo, who are insistent that I provide them with my cell phone number, "FOR MY PROTECTION."

There isn't an option to tell them that I don't HAVE a cell phone. At least so far, gmail's similar request does allow you to continue without it.

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Date: 2013-03-21 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monkey5s.livejournal.com
I have two Yahoo accounts, and got trapped on the one with this MUST GIVE CELL PHONE NUMBER IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO YOUR ACCOUNT and ended up trying to back out of it, I don't even remember what I did finally, but I ended up with the new format on that account.

New format = UGLY AND HARD TO USE.

I was savvier on the other account, and was able to just get past it by using the "forward" arrow on my browser. So I have one account that is easy to use, and one that is horrible, and ugly. Like, dark purple everything on white.

But that was better than my complaint to gmail, the last time they insisted they were changing things. I tried the sample of the new format, and my feedback was that it was awful, garishly bright, and I wanted to keep what they had. Their response? "We know change is scary, but you won't have a choice." Thanks, guys! You're swell!

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Date: 2013-03-20 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akatsuki210.livejournal.com
Yeah, that annoyed me too. Not so much because I dislike Outlook as because I didn't really see anything wrong with the way it was before.

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Date: 2013-03-20 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justicevoles.livejournal.com
Basically, as far as I can tell, the people who do web-design for any major site have to justify their jobs by remaking the entire site every six to eight months. Does it matter if the new design is as functional and aesthetically-pleasing as fresh roadkill? Of course not, the only important thing is that it is NEW, which keeps the whole service from seeming like, OMG, so totally five minutes ago.

With the possible exception of LJ, which I believe is just designed and maintained by a very small collection of bitter antisocial drunks and run by a bunch of wounded philosophy majors who feel cheapened and deeply conflicted by the fact that they have to let us post Harry Potter smut on the English side of the service to pay the bills that keep their incredibly important Russian social dissent blogs going.

On Soviet LJ, userbase loves changes!

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