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I will have custody of my parents' spare car from August 4 (give or take a couple days) through mid-October, during which time I will naturally be using my own driveway. But after that, I have no use for it.

Diagonal Neighbor P has asked if she can rent it from me. I have tentatively said yes (and she is using it through the end of July gratis, because I didn't have any reasonable price estimates at the time), but I'm not sure how much to charge her. The only parking rental market information I can find for Ithaca is all Collegetown-based, and Collegetown is not remotely representative of the parking situation in the city at large. (I mean, some of those spaces go for $150 a month or more. There are some that are over $2,000 a year. It's nuts.)

I am currently thinking $25 a month (which is $300 a year) might be a reasonable starting point for negotiation. If Diagonal Neighbor P agrees, that would be awesome. I am willing to be negotiated down to $20 a month, but no further.

On the other hand, maybe I should make an opening offer of $30 a month and see what happens? Or would that come off as asking too much?

Does anyone have any advice?

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Date: 2014-07-19 03:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eos_joy
Hmm ...well, what's the demand? Is this a fringe 'convenience' for your neighbor? Or is it vital?

See, where I live, you can get by without a driveway/spot but it's a super pain. The street cleaner comes through 4 times a week, there are many hydrants and handicap parking spots, and even meters and other driveways to consider. Yes, I've been lucky and found legitimate parking close and quickly; more often, it is far, or questionable, or inconvenient. There have been more than a dozen occasions wherein I have spent more than an hour looking for parking, to the point that I need to get gas and/or have to drive back to my parents' and spend the night because I do not wish to be ticketed or towed. For this reason, the second a spot became available I jumped on it and it is the first bill I pay, a week in advance, every month; it is the happiest $100/month I've ever paid, and I will pay it until I move because it is crucial in this area, just for peace of mind.

Now...I don't know what the situation is by you. Street cleaners, meters, driveways, hydrants, other restrictions, safety, convenience, and spot availability all factor in here.

If you can ask for $30, then you should. It is your spot and you should be compensated; and it helps you both - it's mutually beneficial. Just, don't get screwed for niceness or lack of knowledge: by me, $30 for a spot is practically robbery it's so cheap. What is a driveway/spot worth by you?

Edited Date: 2014-07-19 03:55 am (UTC)

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Date: 2014-07-19 04:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eos_joy
:) Completely understandable! I would start with $35 and make $30 your bottom line only because $1/day is perfectly reasonable for such a convenience, in my perspective. Feel free to take any and every other perspective into account. :) The way you describe it, a guaranteed spot is still a guaranteed spot, safe from tickets and other restrictions and hassles - as such, $1/day for peace of mind and convenience is definitely reasonable! :)

And, if it helps pay other bills, all the better!

Side note: my blocks are so long and my neighborhood is...potentially dangerous? Not usually, but, on occassion. As such, if and when I had to park more than two (long) blocks from my house I would be suitably on-edge...if I had to park more than that, someone would have to walk with me (as in I'd pick them up in the car and we would walk from the spot together) or I'd go to my parents'. >.< Such is the sacrifice to live in a "up and coming", "cool", diverse urban area. *sigh*

EDIT: I explained the situation to my roommate, who thinks that you should start at $40/month because you are willing to take less. If your neighbor negotiates and gets you down to $35 or $30 ("bottom line") then she feels as if she's gotten "a deal" and you end up with more money than you hoped for anyway. ^^ That's our $0.04.

Edited Date: 2014-07-19 04:56 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-07-20 12:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pineapplechild
I live in a downtown area where there *is* street parking, but not a lot, and I pay 100/mo for a covered parking slot in a garage. I think 30 is perhaps a little low for even a "just a convenience" parking spot, but not a lot higher-- maybe 40?

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Date: 2014-07-20 04:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] krait
Welp. Not sure how much help I'd be, but I remember when I was looking at apartments in a downtown area, one had a (limited spaces available) parking garage for which they charged an extra $40/month; I was kind of torn over whether I'd be willing to pay that, but then ended up not living there anyway.

To me, unless the driveway was offering something "valuable" like cover for the car (to protect from sun/inclement weather/bird poop -- or maybe there's a bunch of reckless drivers in the area and street parkers are very likely to get dinged?) I don't think I'd be inclined to pay much for "slightly closer, but my car's still out in the open being subject to damage". (The apartment's free-with-your-rent parking was in a gated lot, but it wasn't covered and did have trees around/over it -- so while it was more secure from human interference, falling branches, dripping sap, bird droppings etc. were all still a risk.)

But then, I'm a single person (and thus generally only carry a single person's worth of stuff from car to door) with healthy legs, who also works almost every day (so 24-hour parking isn't common for me) and I can't see your driveway :D or guess how much the neighbour might value reduced distance + no tickets! So I guess the moral here is that free advice is worth what you pay for it. :D

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Date: 2014-07-19 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishuu.livejournal.com
My thought would be: Go with 30, point out it's about a dollar a day. If that's too high, allow her to negotiate you down.

Though if you get your parents car again, what will you do?

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Date: 2014-07-19 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishuu.livejournal.com
Just make sure it's very clear, and that you will provide her as much notice as possible. I would also have the Itacha parking rates available to show her you are being more than reasonable.

I know some people who offer daytime parking at 20 a day, so 30 a month is a steal.

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